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[[Hirohiko Araki]]'s afterwords for the first and last volumes of ''[[Stone Ocean]]'' in the [[JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (Paperback Edition)|paperback edition]], published on April 18, 2008 and February 18, 2009 respectively. |
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===Volume 1 (40)=== |
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{{Text|'''About the Beginning of ''Stone Ocean''...'''<br/><br/> |
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{{Quote|There are times where I'll suddenly get overwhelmed, thinking about how weird certain things are which I previously never cared about, and an unusual anger arises. It exists within me, this "Period of Hate," which is often caused by the "Season of Aggression". Some time ago I happened to be with my parents, and so with levity I said this: |
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Even if I don't usually care about something, when certain periods of time come around, I find it strange and get weirdly angry at it. Angry seasons exist within me, but these "angry seasons" are balanced by "seasons of being attacked." |
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Once, I shared the following story with my relatives: there's a traffic light on the street in my neighborhood that turns red even when there are no cars passing through. I used to just ignore it and cross the street if I didn't see any cars, but it always felt like a bad idea to me, so lately I've decided not to cross until the light turns green. And then, suddenly, a barrage of criticism began. "Who would even do that these days?" "Aren't you just such a good boy? Jackass." "Because someone saw you doing it and wrote about you on 2ch,<ref group="lower-alpha">{{W|2channel}} (often abbreviated to "2ch") is a Japanese forum onto which millions of posts regarding a wide variety of topics are uploaded on a daily basis. These posts are largely unmoderated and face little-to-no censorship.</ref> you hypocrite?!" Oh no. It seems my "season of being attacked" has arrived. |
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"You know, near my house there is this traffic light which turns red even during parts of the day where cars are nowhere to be seen. It didn't really bother me before and if there was no one around I would just go ahead and pass anyway. However, lately I've began to see it as bad conduct, so I've decided to stop and wait until it turns green." |
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It's one thing to be attacked for doing or saying the wrong thing, but I hadn't even done anything. I didn't even cross the street at a traffic light. Such is the "season of being attacked." We find ourselves under attack without knowing the reason why. When such a season comes, trying to fight back only leads to further aggression and pain. The only thing you can do is wait for the season to end, like how a person with hay fever has to wait for pollen to stop flying. This season is one where the best defense is ''not'' a good offense. |
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As soon as I finished saying this, I started getting bombarded with a flurry of comments such as "Oh c'mon nobody does that anymore!" and "You are giving me a headache! What, are you trying to play goody two shoes now?!" and even, "You are a hypocrite! You just want someone to see you so he can write about it on 2chan!" |
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Ugh. There it is. The "Season of Aggression" has arrived. If you get attacked for saying or doing something bad there's nothing wrong with that, but I did no such thing. I mean, I didn't even pass the red light. See, this is the "Season of Aggression", that period of time when people get angry at me for reasons that I fail to comprehend. And when it inexorably presents itself again, even in arguments where I could easily counter, I just end up being assailed and suffer even more. Because of this, the only thing that I can do is sit and wait until it passes again, just like people affected by pollen allergies; on hold, until the cause of their nuisance flies away. In these circumstances, the saying, "The best defense is a good offense" does not work. |
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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure has finally reached its sixth protagonist, Jolyne Cujoh, and she too is in the middle of this "Season of Aggression". Ever since she was little, she's lived in Florida, and with Jotaro being very busy in Morioh, she grew up without the presence of a father figure. Jolyne has certainly inherited the tough and cool headed side of her family, but she slowly but surely went towards a path of restlessness. Her mother just scolds her. She falls in love with a guy whose affection she blindly trusts. He represents the love and affection that she never got from his father. But it's precisely this sentiment that will drag Jolyne into a crazy world. Will she be able to free herself from it like "unraveling a string"? And will she mature as a person? This is the lay out that I had in mind when writing Stone Ocean and its protagonist. |
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''[[JoJo's Bizarre Adventure]]'' finally finds its sixth protagonist, [[Jolyne Cujoh]], in the midst of such a "season of being attacked." She has lived in Florida since she was a little girl. [[Jotaro Kujo|Her father]] was very busy in [[Morioh]] back then, so she longed for his affection above all. But she would spend her entire childhood without a father. Despite her tough and cool [[Joestar Family|bloodline]], she somehow found herself going down a path filled with anxiety. All she ever received from [[Jolyne's Mother|her mother]] was nagging. When she fell in love with [[Romeo Jisso|a boy]], Jolyne came to believe in her boyfriend's love. From him she received the love and trust that her father never gave her. But that feeling of love dragged Jolyne into a world of misery. Can Jolyne unravel the thread that binds her and escape that place? And will she grow as a person in the process? That is the background of the protagonist in ''JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 6: Stone Ocean''. |
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Some time ago, in the 1980s, the impulse of trying a new creative adventure made me draw "[[Gorgeous Irene]]," a short story which had a woman as a protagonist. But in that time period I just, don't know, kinda felt something was off...I perceived a weird atmosphere telling me that a female protagonist wouldn't go well in my works, and so I scrapped the idea of turning it into an actual series. Almost 15 years have passed since then, and I'm convinced that, in some way, the times have changed. Today we live in an era in which, even if a girl takes a punch, or her finger goes flying, or she gets pushed down a building, you can still have a really strong atmosphere. The responsibility is all on her dad's shoulders, Jotaro Kujo. He is the one who initially comes to save his daughter, but ultimately ends up getting saved by her. This, in turn, favors the internal growth of the girl. It seems to me that putting yourself out there by inserting a character like this into a manga really pays off. |
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We can be men and women, but the blood relations and the sentiments which derive from them are elements which we all inherit. |
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In the 80's, I drew a short story named ''[[Gorgeous Irene]]'' with a [[Irene Rapona|female protagonist]], hoping to take her on a unique adventure. But at the time, I had the impression that women wouldn't feel very comfortable reading my work, so I decided not to make it a full series. It's been almost 15 years since then, and I feel like times have changed. The impression has shifted to the point that girls can get punched, have their fingers blown off, or be pushed off a building, and still be tough enough to go on. |
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What does "Stone Ocean" mean? "Stone" is the will of Jolyne, while "Ocean" symbolizes women altogether. This Stone Ocean can also refer to the image of the prison in which the story is set. After having decided to draw Stone Ocean, I wanted to collect some material and went to visit a prison in Florida. It was divided into 4 sections: juvenile detention, female detention, young male detention and death row convicts detention that I could only enter after I was granted a permit. In America, there are also "private" prisons in which a penalty discount becomes the equivalent of a commercial enterprise. |
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It's all because of her father, Jotaro Kujo. He comes to save his daughter and, in turn, she goes to save her father's life, and her heart grows as a result. A protagonist like her is someone worth challenging in the span of a full-length manga. After all, a bloodline and its legacy are passed down, regardless of whether their recipient is male or female. The title of ''Stone Ocean'' symbolizes Jolyne's ''stone'' will, as well as the femininity of the ''ocean''. It can also refer to an ocean of stone, the image of [[Green Dolphin Street Prison|the prison]] in which the story takes place. |
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I could enter three sections, but not the male detention one because it was deemed too dangerous, I was only able to see the kitchen and the model prisoners working there. In any case, it wasn't a huge prison like the one where Jolyne Cujoh was incarcerated, rather it was a very high tech one and in some way reminded me of Roppongi Hills. (Big urban complex in Roppongi, a Tokyo district) At the entrance I was patted down to check what I was carrying with me and possible metal objects. Then I took an elevator, walked, took another elevator, walked again, then another elevator in repetition. At every passage a heavy metal door with an electronic lock would be opened and closed, then another, and another, and so on. On the way, I was escorted by some guards of average rank. Doors can't speak, but it was like they were telling me that I couldn't leave that place anymore, even if I willed it. I'm not sure if it was claustrophobia, but I was very nervous, I felt like I was in a state of hyperventilation and my breathing was ragged. Some prisoners, no matter how many times I told them I was from Tokyo, wanted me to gift them a Bible in Korean. Furthermore, there was a woman with a massive body structure who looked just like the boss from a movie, seated next to her was instead a girl with a slim figure, probably her henchman, through which she asked me how old I was. I would later heartily describe my feelings to the warden, that I was really anxious to the point of suffocation. He replied "It's the same for me every day. I always feel relieved when I can finally get out and go back home.” Writing this sixth part, I keep questioning myself with concern over Jolyne Cujoh. If I was in the same situation, I think that after just 3 hours of being put in I'd probably already feel destroyed. My impression is that, between all the previous JoJo protagonists, she is the toughest one and that I desire for her to be happy the most. Especially because, as if that wasn't enough, she is right in the middle of the “Season of Aggression”.|Hirohiko Araki}} |
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While working on ''Stone Ocean'', I visited a prison in Florida on a research trip. The prison was divided into four areas: the juvenile ward, the female ward, the male ward, and the ward for the dangerous or condemned. In America, where punishment is a commercial enterprise, prisons are often privately owned. We were allowed to enter three of the four areas; with the exception of the kitchen where the model prisoners worked, we were not allowed to visit the male ward, which we were told was a dangerous place. It wasn't the kind of large-scale prison Jolyne finds herself in, but rather a high-tech prison building like {{W|Roppongi Hills}}. |
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{{S|Translator Note: 2chan or 2channel is a gigantic Japanese forum, in which millions of posts regarding a huge variety of topics are uploaded on a daily basis, these posts are left uncontrolled and go under almost no censorship.}} |
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[Translated by [https://twitter.com/LegoAlex98 LegoAlex98]] |
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Upon entering the prison, we were searched for belongings and had to pass through metal detectors. After that, we took an elevator, walked down a corridor, took another elevator, went down another corridor, and so on, again and again. And each time, a steel door with an electronic lock opened and shut and opened and shut as I entered with the warden and guards. None of us mentioned it, but every time the door closed, the realization sank in that I would never be able to leave on my own free will ever again. I felt claustrophobic, and I became so nervous that I started to hyperventilate and had trouble breathing. The prisoners would call out to us, "I'm from Tokyo," or, "Please let me have a Korean Bible." One of them was a small lady sitting next to a much larger woman, as though the larger one were her boss in a scene from a movie. The larger of the two asked me how old I was through her henchwoman. I eventually told the guard frankly, "I'm so nervous, and it's so hard to breathe in here," to which they replied, "I feel the same way every day. It's always a relief when I get to go home." |
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Jolyne Cujoh... For the entire time I worked on Part 6 of the series, I wondered if she was going to be okay. If I were in Jolyne's shoes, I would've broken down and cried within three hours of being put in there. Out of all of the protagonists in ''JoJo'', I really feel that she might be the toughest, and the one I wanted to be happiest. Especially since she's found herself in the middle of a "season of being attacked."|[[Hirohiko Araki]]}} |
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―――『ストーンオーシャン』の始まりに……<br/><br/> |
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普段は別にどうでもいいと思っているのに、何か急にある時期がやってくると、同じ物事に対して「やっばりおかしい!」と妙に怒りがわいてくる。「{{Ruby|怒|ど}}の季節」というのが自分の中にあるんだけど、「{{Ruby|怒|ど}}の季節」に対して「攻撃される季節」というのもある。<br/>この問、親戚の前で、『近所の道路に信号があるんだけど、車のほとんど通らない時間帯でも「赤」になるのね。で、かつては「ま、いいやノ」って、車が通らないからヒョイって無視して渡ってたのね。でも、そういうのって良くないかなと思って、最近はボケーっと「青」になるまで無視しないで、渡らない事にした。』って話を軽くしたら。突然。「今時そんなヤツいないだろッ!」とか「ムカつく、いい子ブってんじゃあないの!?」だの「目撃されてて2{{Ruby|ch|ちゃんねる}}で書かれるからだろ偽善者!」とまで非難の集中砲火をあび始めた。やばい。<br/> 「攻撃される季節」がやって来た。<br/><br/> |
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間違った事をしたり言ったりで攻撃されるのはしょうがないってのがあるが、なにもしてないのに。ていうか信号さえ渡ってもいない。これが「攻撃される季節」。なぜかわけがわからず攻撃されてしまうのだ。こういう時期がおとずれた時は、反撃なんかしようものなら、ますます攻撃されて痛めつけられてしまうので、ひたすら季節が終わるのを、花粉症の人が花粉が飛ばなくなるのを耐えしのぶように待つしか方法はない。この季節は「反撃する事は最大の防御には{{Ruby|ならない|・・・・}}のだ。」<br/><br/> |
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「ジョジョの奇妙な冒険」もついに6人目の主人公―「空条徐倫」も―こんな「攻撃される季節」の中にあった。<br/>彼女は小さい頃から、アメリカ合衆国のフロリダに住んでいたのだが、父親が日本の杜王町でとても忙しかったため、父親の愛をとても欲しがった。でも、父親は不在の少女時代。もともとタフでクールな血筋は受け継いではいるが、なんとなく不安でいっぱいの道を歩み始めた。母親からは小言ばかり。男の子に恋をし、「徐倫」はボーイフレンドの愛を信じた。父親からもらえなかった愛と信頼を。だが、その愛する気持ちがとんでもない世界へ徐倫を引きずり込んでいく。空条徐倫はそこから「糸をほどくように」脱出できるのか? そして、成長して行く事ができるのか? それが「ジョジョの奇妙な冒険Part6ストーンオーシャン」の主人公設定である。<br/><br/> |
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以前、80年代に「ゴージャス☆アイリン」という「女性が主人公」の短編を、創作的冒険の動機で描いた事があるんだけれども、その時なんか妙に、こう………女性が自分の作品にしっくりとハマらない雰囲気がただよったので、長編にするのをやめにした事がある。<br/>15年近く過ぎて、時代がなんか変わったような気がする。女の子でもパンチくらったり、指が吹っ飛んだり、ビルから突き落とされても、タフに行けそうな雰囲気の時代になって来た。全ては父―空条承太郎の責任。そして娘を救いに向かい、逆に娘も父の命を救出に向か う事によって、娘の心は成長していくのだ。マンガの巾でそういう主人公にチャレンジする価値はありそうだ。<br/>血統とその{{Ruby|志|こころざし}}は男であろうが女であろうが受け継がれるものだから。<br/>「ストーンオーシャン」とは「{{Ruby|石|ストーン}}」は徐倫の意志、「{{Ruby|海|オーシャン}}」は女性を象徴的に意味する。もしくは「石でできた海」、この舞台である牢獄のイメージを意味する。<br/><br/> |
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「ストーンオーシャン」を描くにあたって、フロリダの刑務所へ見学取材に行った。そこは、「少年監房」「女子監房」「青年男子監房」「死刑囚、および異常犯罪系監房」の4地区にわかれており、許可をとって中に入れてもらった。アメリカには「民営」の刑務所があって、刑罰が営利事業にもなっている。3区域は入れてもらい、青年男子エリアは危険との事で、模範囚の働く厨房以外は入れてもらえなかったが、空条徐倫の入った広大な敷地にあるタイプの刑務所ではなくて、なんか六本木ヒルズのようなハイテクビルの刑務所だった。<br/>入る時に持ち物検査と金属探知検査をされると、エレべーターに乗り、廊下を歩き、またエレべーター、廊下、と繰り返し中へ入っていく。その度に電子ロックの鋼鉄のドアがドーンドーンと開いては閉じられ開いては閉じられしながら看守長や看守さんたちと一緒に入って行く。言葉はないんだが扉が閉まる度に、「もうおまえは決して自分の意志では外には出れないんだぞ。」と実感として体にしみ込んで行く。閉所恐怖というか、すごく緊張して過呼吸気味になって息が苦しくなって来た。囚人の人達が「ぼくは東京から来た」と言ってるのに「韓国語の聖書、プレゼントしてくれよ。」とか言って来る。本当、映画みたいにボスがいて、体格のいい女性の横に小柄な子分みたいな女の人がチョコンと座ってて。「おまえ歳いくつ?」ってその子分を通じてぼくに質間して来る。看守さんに、「すごく緊張して呼吸が苦しいです。」と感想を率直に言ったら、「わたしも毎日だよ。帰宅で外に出れた時、いつもホッとする。」そう、コメントしていた。<br/><br/> |
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「空条徐倫」―第6部を描いてて本当、彼女「大丈夫かな?」っていつも思っていた。ぼくが徐倫の状況だったら、おそらく{{Ruby|入れられて|・・・・・}}3時間で{{Ruby|壊れていた|・・・・・}}と思う。<br/>実感としてジョジョ歴代主人公の中でも、一番タフかも。そして一番幸せになって欲しい。と思った主人公だ。しかも彼女、今「攻撃される季節」のまっただ中にいるのだから。}} |
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{{Text|To tell the truth, I don't have much to comment on in this afterword. |
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In terms of [[Stand|Stand abilities]] (speaking from my own perspective), it felt at the time like I had drawn all that I needed to in ''JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 6: Stone Ocean'', and I felt a sense of creative satisfaction at the thought that, perhaps, I had reached the pinnacle of my ideas. Time itself was getting faster and faster and outpacing human senses, approaching infinity itself, or at least as close to infinity as possible. I thought to myself then that no Stand ability could ever surpass it. There was nothing more incredible I could draw. My ideas had indeed reached their pinnacle. |
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I've always believed that a sense of satisfaction or accomplishment is a dangerous feeling. To put it bluntly, speaking as a human being and a manga artist, the situation that arises from thinking that everything's turned out alright and nothing more needs to be done is a dangerous thing, for the development of society and civilization, for science, for philosophy, and especially for art. It's like a love that has burned itself out, an ''{{W|Ashita no Joe}}'' with no more battles to fight. We all work to achieve something, to find satisfaction, but what do we do after that? That was the contradictory feeling I had when I finished ''Stone Ocean''. |
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The protagonist, [[Jolyne Cujoh]], lacked the love from [[Jotaro Kujo|her father]] that she so desperately sought, which led to her involvement in a car accident and her incarceration. But then, by trying to save her father, she grows as a woman. The story of her growth as a protagonist is complete. What do we do now? I felt much the same way about the process of creating the manga itself. In other words, there's nothing left to draw. It's over. ''[[JoJo's Bizarre Adventure]]'' has reached its peak. That is ''Stone Ocean''. The end. |
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No, it still doesn't feel quite right. Maybe I'm just conceited, but this is still no good. That feeling of having accomplished something is a problem in and of itself. The red light's flashing. What can I do? What can I possibly do? And then it hit me. |
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We'll go back to the root. The {{W|Italian Renaissance}} was inspired by a return to ancient Greek and Roman concepts. The French painter {{W|Paul Gauguin|Gauguin}} created a new painting by returning to nature in {{W|Tahiti}}. We'll make the [[Made in Heaven|Stand ability]] of the main villain, [[Enrico Pucci|Father Pucci]], even more powerful. That way, time, the protagonists, and the [[Joestar Family|bloodline]] itself can make a full cycle of the universe and return to their origin. ''JoJo's Bizarre Adventure'' will abandon modern civilization and return to nature. |
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That is the end of ''Stone Ocean'', which was changed and redrawn at the last minute. Moreover, it also brought out a sense of nostalgia. Jolyne Cujoh's memories are [[Irene|different]], but her love and affection will remain and become eternal, and she will surely continue to grow and move forward. Speaking of which... |
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As I finished Part 6, I had a thought: the [[Johnny Joestar|protagonist]] of the next part of ''JoJo's Bizarre Adventure'', Part 7, should be a protagonist who fights against nature, but also learns from nature and grows as a person as a result. Would ''[[Steel Ball Run]]'' (tentative) be a good title? Under normal circumstances, I probably wouldn't have said or written any of this. But it's an afterword written by the author. The afterword is what it is.|[[Hirohiko Araki]]}} |
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{{Text|このあとがきのコメントは実をいうとあまりありません。<br/>この『ジョジョの奇妙な冒険Part6ストーンオーシャン』でスタンド能力としては(作者自身の感覚としては)――けっこう描ききった感が当時あって、アイデア的に究極に達してしまったのかな? と創作的な満足感を味わってしまったのです。<br/>「時間」が、どんどん人間の感覚より速くなって行って、無限に、考えうる限りの無限に――近づいて行く。―――これ以上のスタンド能力ってもうないだろう。凄いのなんて、もうないな。アイデアは究極へ達した。そう思ってしまったのです。<br/><br/> |
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「満足感」とか「達成感」という感覚は、けっこう危険な領域の感覚なのでは? と常日頃思っていて、つまり「全てOKしちゃって、もう何もいらないや」という状態は人間としても漫画家としても、あるいは社会や文明の発展としても科学としても哲学としても、芸術としてもきっとヤバイ事に違いない。<br/>燃え尽きる恋愛。もしくは闘い終わった〝あしたのジョー〟。人間はきっと何かを達成したり満足するために行動するのだろうけど、満足したらそのあとどうする? それがこのストーンオーシャンを描き終わった時の矛盾した感覚でした。<br/><br/> |
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主人公の空条徐倫は、求める父親からの愛情の空虚さが心の底にあって、それ{{Ruby|理由|ゆえ}}、交通事故を引き起こし、投獄されました。<br/>そして、逆に父を助ける行動で、ひとりの女性として成長して行く。主人公の成長物語としては達成してしまった。そのあとどうする? ………漫画制作的にそうも思ってしまいました。<br/>つまり描く事はもうないな。終わったな。「ジョジョの奇妙な冒険」はもう究極に達してしまったな。それがこの「ストーンオーシャン」です。―――――以上。………………<br/><br/> |
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そして――――――――<br/>ジョジョの奇妙な冒険の次の第7部の主人公は、自然と闘い、自然から学んで成長して行く主人公にしよう。タイトルは「スティール・ボール・ラン(仮)」か?<br/>そう思いながら、当時、この第6部を描き終えました。本来なら、こういった事は言ったり書いたりすべき事ではないのかもしれない。でも作者本人のあとがきですからね。そういうあとがきです。 |
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Latest revision as of 12:27, 11 March 2025

Hirohiko Araki's afterwords for the first and last volumes of Stone Ocean in the paperback edition, published on April 18, 2008 and February 18, 2009 respectively.
Interview
Volume 1 (40)
Even if I don't usually care about something, when certain periods of time come around, I find it strange and get weirdly angry at it. Angry seasons exist within me, but these "angry seasons" are balanced by "seasons of being attacked."
Once, I shared the following story with my relatives: there's a traffic light on the street in my neighborhood that turns red even when there are no cars passing through. I used to just ignore it and cross the street if I didn't see any cars, but it always felt like a bad idea to me, so lately I've decided not to cross until the light turns green. And then, suddenly, a barrage of criticism began. "Who would even do that these days?" "Aren't you just such a good boy? Jackass." "Because someone saw you doing it and wrote about you on 2ch,[a] you hypocrite?!" Oh no. It seems my "season of being attacked" has arrived.
It's one thing to be attacked for doing or saying the wrong thing, but I hadn't even done anything. I didn't even cross the street at a traffic light. Such is the "season of being attacked." We find ourselves under attack without knowing the reason why. When such a season comes, trying to fight back only leads to further aggression and pain. The only thing you can do is wait for the season to end, like how a person with hay fever has to wait for pollen to stop flying. This season is one where the best defense is not a good offense.
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure finally finds its sixth protagonist, Jolyne Cujoh, in the midst of such a "season of being attacked." She has lived in Florida since she was a little girl. Her father was very busy in Morioh back then, so she longed for his affection above all. But she would spend her entire childhood without a father. Despite her tough and cool bloodline, she somehow found herself going down a path filled with anxiety. All she ever received from her mother was nagging. When she fell in love with a boy, Jolyne came to believe in her boyfriend's love. From him she received the love and trust that her father never gave her. But that feeling of love dragged Jolyne into a world of misery. Can Jolyne unravel the thread that binds her and escape that place? And will she grow as a person in the process? That is the background of the protagonist in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 6: Stone Ocean.
In the 80's, I drew a short story named Gorgeous Irene with a female protagonist, hoping to take her on a unique adventure. But at the time, I had the impression that women wouldn't feel very comfortable reading my work, so I decided not to make it a full series. It's been almost 15 years since then, and I feel like times have changed. The impression has shifted to the point that girls can get punched, have their fingers blown off, or be pushed off a building, and still be tough enough to go on.
It's all because of her father, Jotaro Kujo. He comes to save his daughter and, in turn, she goes to save her father's life, and her heart grows as a result. A protagonist like her is someone worth challenging in the span of a full-length manga. After all, a bloodline and its legacy are passed down, regardless of whether their recipient is male or female. The title of Stone Ocean symbolizes Jolyne's stone will, as well as the femininity of the ocean. It can also refer to an ocean of stone, the image of the prison in which the story takes place.
While working on Stone Ocean, I visited a prison in Florida on a research trip. The prison was divided into four areas: the juvenile ward, the female ward, the male ward, and the ward for the dangerous or condemned. In America, where punishment is a commercial enterprise, prisons are often privately owned. We were allowed to enter three of the four areas; with the exception of the kitchen where the model prisoners worked, we were not allowed to visit the male ward, which we were told was a dangerous place. It wasn't the kind of large-scale prison Jolyne finds herself in, but rather a high-tech prison building like Roppongi Hills.
Upon entering the prison, we were searched for belongings and had to pass through metal detectors. After that, we took an elevator, walked down a corridor, took another elevator, went down another corridor, and so on, again and again. And each time, a steel door with an electronic lock opened and shut and opened and shut as I entered with the warden and guards. None of us mentioned it, but every time the door closed, the realization sank in that I would never be able to leave on my own free will ever again. I felt claustrophobic, and I became so nervous that I started to hyperventilate and had trouble breathing. The prisoners would call out to us, "I'm from Tokyo," or, "Please let me have a Korean Bible." One of them was a small lady sitting next to a much larger woman, as though the larger one were her boss in a scene from a movie. The larger of the two asked me how old I was through her henchwoman. I eventually told the guard frankly, "I'm so nervous, and it's so hard to breathe in here," to which they replied, "I feel the same way every day. It's always a relief when I get to go home."
Jolyne Cujoh... For the entire time I worked on Part 6 of the series, I wondered if she was going to be okay. If I were in Jolyne's shoes, I would've broken down and cried within three hours of being put in there. Out of all of the protagonists in JoJo, I really feel that she might be the toughest, and the one I wanted to be happiest. Especially since she's found herself in the middle of a "season of being attacked."[Translated by HudgynS]
―――『ストーンオーシャン』の始まりに……
普段は別にどうでもいいと思っているのに、何か急にある時期がやってくると、同じ物事に対して「やっばりおかしい!」と妙に怒りがわいてくる。「
この問、親戚の前で、『近所の道路に信号があるんだけど、車のほとんど通らない時間帯でも「赤」になるのね。で、かつては「ま、いいやノ」って、車が通らないからヒョイって無視して渡ってたのね。でも、そういうのって良くないかなと思って、最近はボケーっと「青」になるまで無視しないで、渡らない事にした。』って話を軽くしたら。突然。「今時そんなヤツいないだろッ!」とか「ムカつく、いい子ブってんじゃあないの!?」だの「目撃されてて2
「攻撃される季節」がやって来た。
間違った事をしたり言ったりで攻撃されるのはしょうがないってのがあるが、なにもしてないのに。ていうか信号さえ渡ってもいない。これが「攻撃される季節」。なぜかわけがわからず攻撃されてしまうのだ。こういう時期がおとずれた時は、反撃なんかしようものなら、ますます攻撃されて痛めつけられてしまうので、ひたすら季節が終わるのを、花粉症の人が花粉が飛ばなくなるのを耐えしのぶように待つしか方法はない。この季節は「反撃する事は最大の防御には
「ジョジョの奇妙な冒険」もついに6人目の主人公―「空条徐倫」も―こんな「攻撃される季節」の中にあった。
彼女は小さい頃から、アメリカ合衆国のフロリダに住んでいたのだが、父親が日本の杜王町でとても忙しかったため、父親の愛をとても欲しがった。でも、父親は不在の少女時代。もともとタフでクールな血筋は受け継いではいるが、なんとなく不安でいっぱいの道を歩み始めた。母親からは小言ばかり。男の子に恋をし、「徐倫」はボーイフレンドの愛を信じた。父親からもらえなかった愛と信頼を。だが、その愛する気持ちがとんでもない世界へ徐倫を引きずり込んでいく。空条徐倫はそこから「糸をほどくように」脱出できるのか? そして、成長して行く事ができるのか? それが「ジョジョの奇妙な冒険Part6ストーンオーシャン」の主人公設定である。
以前、80年代に「ゴージャス☆アイリン」という「女性が主人公」の短編を、創作的冒険の動機で描いた事があるんだけれども、その時なんか妙に、こう………女性が自分の作品にしっくりとハマらない雰囲気がただよったので、長編にするのをやめにした事がある。
15年近く過ぎて、時代がなんか変わったような気がする。女の子でもパンチくらったり、指が吹っ飛んだり、ビルから突き落とされても、タフに行けそうな雰囲気の時代になって来た。全ては父―空条承太郎の責任。そして娘を救いに向かい、逆に娘も父の命を救出に向か う事によって、娘の心は成長していくのだ。マンガの巾でそういう主人公にチャレンジする価値はありそうだ。
血統とその
「ストーンオーシャン」とは「
「ストーンオーシャン」を描くにあたって、フロリダの刑務所へ見学取材に行った。そこは、「少年監房」「女子監房」「青年男子監房」「死刑囚、および異常犯罪系監房」の4地区にわかれており、許可をとって中に入れてもらった。アメリカには「民営」の刑務所があって、刑罰が営利事業にもなっている。3区域は入れてもらい、青年男子エリアは危険との事で、模範囚の働く厨房以外は入れてもらえなかったが、空条徐倫の入った広大な敷地にあるタイプの刑務所ではなくて、なんか六本木ヒルズのようなハイテクビルの刑務所だった。
入る時に持ち物検査と金属探知検査をされると、エレべーターに乗り、廊下を歩き、またエレべーター、廊下、と繰り返し中へ入っていく。その度に電子ロックの鋼鉄のドアがドーンドーンと開いては閉じられ開いては閉じられしながら看守長や看守さんたちと一緒に入って行く。言葉はないんだが扉が閉まる度に、「もうおまえは決して自分の意志では外には出れないんだぞ。」と実感として体にしみ込んで行く。閉所恐怖というか、すごく緊張して過呼吸気味になって息が苦しくなって来た。囚人の人達が「ぼくは東京から来た」と言ってるのに「韓国語の聖書、プレゼントしてくれよ。」とか言って来る。本当、映画みたいにボスがいて、体格のいい女性の横に小柄な子分みたいな女の人がチョコンと座ってて。「おまえ歳いくつ?」ってその子分を通じてぼくに質間して来る。看守さんに、「すごく緊張して呼吸が苦しいです。」と感想を率直に言ったら、「わたしも毎日だよ。帰宅で外に出れた時、いつもホッとする。」そう、コメントしていた。
実感としてジョジョ歴代主人公の中でも、一番タフかも。そして一番幸せになって欲しい。と思った主人公だ。しかも彼女、今「攻撃される季節」のまっただ中にいるのだから。
Volume 11 (50)
In terms of Stand abilities (speaking from my own perspective), it felt at the time like I had drawn all that I needed to in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 6: Stone Ocean, and I felt a sense of creative satisfaction at the thought that, perhaps, I had reached the pinnacle of my ideas. Time itself was getting faster and faster and outpacing human senses, approaching infinity itself, or at least as close to infinity as possible. I thought to myself then that no Stand ability could ever surpass it. There was nothing more incredible I could draw. My ideas had indeed reached their pinnacle.
I've always believed that a sense of satisfaction or accomplishment is a dangerous feeling. To put it bluntly, speaking as a human being and a manga artist, the situation that arises from thinking that everything's turned out alright and nothing more needs to be done is a dangerous thing, for the development of society and civilization, for science, for philosophy, and especially for art. It's like a love that has burned itself out, an Ashita no Joe with no more battles to fight. We all work to achieve something, to find satisfaction, but what do we do after that? That was the contradictory feeling I had when I finished Stone Ocean.
The protagonist, Jolyne Cujoh, lacked the love from her father that she so desperately sought, which led to her involvement in a car accident and her incarceration. But then, by trying to save her father, she grows as a woman. The story of her growth as a protagonist is complete. What do we do now? I felt much the same way about the process of creating the manga itself. In other words, there's nothing left to draw. It's over. JoJo's Bizarre Adventure has reached its peak. That is Stone Ocean. The end.
No, it still doesn't feel quite right. Maybe I'm just conceited, but this is still no good. That feeling of having accomplished something is a problem in and of itself. The red light's flashing. What can I do? What can I possibly do? And then it hit me.
We'll go back to the root. The Italian Renaissance was inspired by a return to ancient Greek and Roman concepts. The French painter Gauguin created a new painting by returning to nature in Tahiti. We'll make the Stand ability of the main villain, Father Pucci, even more powerful. That way, time, the protagonists, and the bloodline itself can make a full cycle of the universe and return to their origin. JoJo's Bizarre Adventure will abandon modern civilization and return to nature.
That is the end of Stone Ocean, which was changed and redrawn at the last minute. Moreover, it also brought out a sense of nostalgia. Jolyne Cujoh's memories are different, but her love and affection will remain and become eternal, and she will surely continue to grow and move forward. Speaking of which...
As I finished Part 6, I had a thought: the protagonist of the next part of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, Part 7, should be a protagonist who fights against nature, but also learns from nature and grows as a person as a result. Would Steel Ball Run (tentative) be a good title? Under normal circumstances, I probably wouldn't have said or written any of this. But it's an afterword written by the author. The afterword is what it is.[Translated by HudgynS]
この『ジョジョの奇妙な冒険Part6ストーンオーシャン』でスタンド能力としては(作者自身の感覚としては)――けっこう描ききった感が当時あって、アイデア的に究極に達してしまったのかな? と創作的な満足感を味わってしまったのです。
「時間」が、どんどん人間の感覚より速くなって行って、無限に、考えうる限りの無限に――近づいて行く。―――これ以上のスタンド能力ってもうないだろう。凄いのなんて、もうないな。アイデアは究極へ達した。そう思ってしまったのです。
「満足感」とか「達成感」という感覚は、けっこう危険な領域の感覚なのでは? と常日頃思っていて、つまり「全てOKしちゃって、もう何もいらないや」という状態は人間としても漫画家としても、あるいは社会や文明の発展としても科学としても哲学としても、芸術としてもきっとヤバイ事に違いない。
燃え尽きる恋愛。もしくは闘い終わった〝あしたのジョー〟。人間はきっと何かを達成したり満足するために行動するのだろうけど、満足したらそのあとどうする? それがこのストーンオーシャンを描き終わった時の矛盾した感覚でした。
主人公の空条徐倫は、求める父親からの愛情の空虚さが心の底にあって、それ
そして、逆に父を助ける行動で、ひとりの女性として成長して行く。主人公の成長物語としては達成してしまった。そのあとどうする? ………漫画制作的にそうも思ってしまいました。
つまり描く事はもうないな。終わったな。「ジョジョの奇妙な冒険」はもう究極に達してしまったな。それがこの「ストーンオーシャン」です。―――――以上。………………
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……………………………………………………………………いや、やっぱりヤだな。それはなんか、うぬぼれなのかもしれない。かなりヤバイ。達成感とか思う事。それ自体がヤバイような。赤信号が点滅しました。どおしよう? 本当どおしよう? 「そうだ!」そう思いました。
原点に返ろう。イタリアのルネッサンスは古代ギリシャやローマ時代の概念に返ったから起こったんだ。フランスの画家のゴーギャンは、タヒチという原始に返って新しい絵画を生みだしたんだ。
ラストのボス・プッチ神父のスタンド能力をさらにパワーアップさせよう。そうすりゃあ、時間も主人公たちも血統も宇宙一周して原始に返れる。ジョジョの奇妙な冒険は――現代文明を捨てて自然に返ろう。
それが当時、終了直前に変更して描いた、「ストーンオーシャン」のラストです。しかもノスタルジイの感覚も出せた。空条徐倫の記憶は別のものだが、愛と情は残って永遠のものとなり、きっと成長して行くでしょう。
そして――――――――
ジョジョの奇妙な冒険の次の第7部の主人公は、自然と闘い、自然から学んで成長して行く主人公にしよう。タイトルは「スティール・ボール・ラン(仮)」か?
そう思いながら、当時、この第6部を描き終えました。本来なら、こういった事は言ったり書いたりすべき事ではないのかもしれない。でも作者本人のあとがきですからね。そういうあとがきです。